it was all about whipping the new guy into shape.LOL BUT I WOULDENT CHANGE IT FOR THE WORLD. GOOD TIME. From 1961--1992, it was used as a US Polaris nuclear submarine base. My Father served in the US Navy there , he passed in 65. Site One refit. s.parentNode.insertBefore(p, s); Wished I could have stayed much longer. You can email me @ wezweeanne@gmail.com if you have any way to help me. The name of the Holy Loch has a number of stories related to its creation, ranging from pre-Christian tales of Sun or Sun-god worship in the area (which has a number standing stones), through Saint Mungo (also known as St Kentigern, patron saint and founder of Glasgow) in the 6th century and the story of a ship being lost in the loch while carry soil from the holy land to be laid under Glasgow Cathedral (Saint Mungo was buried on the site in AD 612), to Saint Munn in the 10th century, who landed there from Ireland. to live there and meet so many wonderful people. Veteran students may be eligible for many different benefits and sometimes the decision to apply specific benefits may be irrevocable. I served on the drydock (63-66) during which the name was changed from USS-AFDB-7 to USS LOS ALAMOS AFDB-7. They were married on the USS Holyloch on 12/3/76. Paul, great article. Dennis, We were there at the same time. I loved that place. served on board the Canopus AS34 from 73 to 75spent most of my entire duration taking care of the small boats and left my final duty as duty boat electrician IC3 Bishopif you went over to the beach via small boat, then you definitely passed by me. Lazaretto Point lies on the southwest shore of the Holy Loch, and lies between Ardnadam to the west, and Sandbank to the east. The number of The tugboatwas assigned tothe American nuclear submarine base at Holy Loch, Scotland. I continue to watch the 2 webcam sites of Dunoon. Thank. Its 2,000 soldiers, with 150 american civilians and 2,000 dependents, have become a fixture in. The number of submarines supported by SUBRON-14 varied over the years, however an indication of the scale of the operation can be seen in the number of patrols carried out. A fictionalised version of the operation was later told in the 1955 film The Cockleshell Heroes, with Trevor Howard, Anthony Newley and Jos Ferrer. November 1, 1960 Harold Macmillan, the British Prime Minister, announced that there would be an American nuclear base on the Clyde. Dear Paul, I visited Dunoon Scotland in the summer of 1977. 05-11-06, 10:32 PM #2 mzook THE SHIP USS SIMON LAKE (AS 33) SUBMARINE TENDER Builder: U.S. Their financial impact on the town was not as great as many people thought. In March 1992, the last US Navy ship, the submarine tender USS Simon Lake, sailed out of the Holy Loch, ending thirty one years of American presence in the area. And I'm doing a cruise around Great Britain in May with a stop in Greenock. Site One was a US submarine refit facility which was located on the southern shore of the Holy Loch for 31 years. During World War II, the Holy loch was used as submarine base. Went back to Scotland for the first time this past summer both the people in Gourock and Dunoon were absolutely the best, brought back many memories. TWS is the largest online community of Veterans existing today and is a powerful Veteran locator. woman relaxing in nature. Your photos are great and thanks again for your post.D. The Association wants to remember one of the most loyal members and his wife. Charlie Witherow, OMC USN(Ret), Chairman H.L.A.V.A. He was a guy I liked a lot. Police enquiries identified 13 males that had gone missing, presumed drowned in the Holy Loch or the adjoining lochs, over the previous 35 years. Hi Paul,I was stationed with you in Holy Loch. Edinburgh has a statue of an ancestor of mine, Sir Wm Pitt. Paul. If anyone was a kind and bright light in Dunoon it was Anselmo Mario Franceschi. Leslie Williams, sisterinlaw of John P. Shannon USN. I recall he was PA farm boy and previously worked on the floating dry dock. My dentist here in Maine had served on the last sub-tender before the base shut down. for the memory's peace and respect to you, Steven,Sadly, I don't recall the name of the third chief I briefly served under in late 1975. Site One - the Holy Loch was a significant, if somewhat discreet Cold War location. Dated young girl there back in the late sixties. They were training for Operation Frankton: a World War II British Combined Operations raid on shipping in Bordeaux harbour, France, in December 1942, carried out by twelve men using two-man Cockle MK II canoes. Thank you. That is such a killer View. VA Benefits Help Medical Transportation Employment & Entrepreneurship Transition Services Find A DAV Location: WAYS TO GIVE Hi, I served onboard the Holland from late 76 through 82,then crossdecked to the Hunley until Spring of 83. In May '70 the Simon Lake was relieved the USS Canopus (AS 34). The entrance lies on the west coast of the Firth of Clyde, marked by Strone Point to the north, and Hunter's Quay to the south. I have since lost touch but we'll always have the memories, Mark.Yes, we'll always have good memories of Holy Loch, Scotland.Thanks for writing.Paul. var _prum = [['id', '58565476aa69598b85884117'], On the USS canopus was in 2nd division took the canopus back to Charleston enjoyed. The accommodation is 5.4 miles from Benmore Botanic Garden, and guests benefit from private parking available on site and free WiFi. Oh my. I WAS ON THE HOLLAND AND THE HUNTLEY, 1980-82. In 2005, refurbishment works were carried out at a cost believed to be approaching 40,000. DAV Helps more than a million veterans every year. I JUST DID A VIRTUAL WALK THROUGH DUNOON AND SAW THE NAVY WAS NO LONGER THERE. Unless we have a merchant marine, our navy if called upon for offensive or defensive work is going to be most defective.William Howard Taft (18571930), February 1964, completed the first "off center" docking of a Polaris submarine. VABenefits@holyfamily.edu. Submarine Squadron 14, headquartered aboard the serving submarine tender, arrived in the Holy Loch on 3 March 1961, Bloomfield, CT 06002. Government presented the problem of providing forward servicing facilities for accompanied me then, and on my subsequent assignment to the HOLLAND Alim Shabazz (USCG, Active Duty) Email: alim@amvets-hawaii.org Phone: 808-222-2205. At this time, my friend Richard and myself decided to form an association so we established the Holy Loch American Veterans Association (HLAVA). My sister and I went to the "old grammar school" and we lived in a cottage on the corner of Clyde Street and the Alexandra Parade, on the grounds of the Dunmore Hotel. How can we assist you? Finally, in June '87 the Hunley was relieved by the Simon Lake [for her 2nd We been hounding the Soviet helo-carrier Leningrad on their ASW exercises. google_ad_width = 120; submarines being supported by the Squadron varied over the years, and the measure I re-visited Holy Loch in 1992, it was sad to see the base removed.Best Regards,David (Pod) Podurgiel EN3, David,Glad to hear from you. The Holy Loch name is believed to date from the . I was aboard the Saugus in 1975, but I don't recall your name. Holy Family Hall, Rm 205. Since GST was granted SCIO (Scottish Charitable Incorporated Organisation) status on 27th June 2019, the board of trustees and project coordinator have worked hard to fulfil their role within the community. He wrote back, stating: The present time, with the Vietnam controversy heightened by the current Vietcong offensive and a consequent increase in criticism in Britain of American policies, hardly seems propitious for advising the Queen Mother to make a gesture of this kind. I traveled all over Scotland, the United Kingdom and Europe during those years. I know im clutching at straws, but I know my sisters are looking for me, we just keep missing each other.If anyone knows of any americans doing this please can u help me. The big guy who was a 1st Class BM? Polaris tender base, Holy Loch.-The White House announced on November 1, 1960, that arrangements had been made with the British Government to base a U.S. Navy submarine tender and a floating dock in the Holy Loch in the Clyde Estuary." (The tender, the U.S.S. November 1, 2020 A small group of Scots and Americans are announcing the launch of a website to tell the story of the American years. I believe it would have been about 1970. love the pictures and the article. You can read his full bio by clicking on the above photo. I do recognize your picture. One I hope to come back and visit someday! In the 23 years I did in the Navy, the 5 years I did in Holy Loch were the best. Life insurance. The object of "HLAVA", a non-profit military veterans organization, is to serve as a local association to support and assist its members; to provide a focal point for information; to cultivate and. We may have passed each other in the street sometime and not given each other a look. Never met one who wasn't the most cordial & friendly to a Yank Doc from the Colonies. Many readers will be familiar with the American Nuclear Submarine Base that existed here for just over 30 years. If you served in Submarine Refit Site One Holy Loch, Scotland, Join TWS for free to reconnect with service friends. Base would close, and in March 1992 the last US Navy ship sailed out, thus Notable is the mention of the arrival of the depot ship USS Proteus, which had been converted to be the first Polaris submarine tender during 1959-61, and had required the insertion of a 44-foot section amidships, where the missiles would be serviced. The Site 1 U.S. Navy Submarine Base (Subron 14) at the Holy Loch in Scotland was Established in 1961 and closed down in 1992 as the Cold War ended and new te. A submarine tender and a drydock with an assorted collection of naval equipment, all located in a Scottish sea loch provided a vital link during the first decades of the US Navy's Polaris fleet operations, allowing quick and easy access to the patrol areas in the seas around the north and north west coast of . Most of them had crumpled righthand front fenders (wings), the roads here were narrow, often single carriageway, and in an emergency the Americans pulled to the right with the inevitable consequence. . He has interviewed police commissioners and chiefs, FBI, DEA, HSI and other federal special agents, prosecutors, public officials, WWII UDT frogmen, Navy SEALs, Army Delta operators, Israeli commandos, military intelligence officers, Scotland Yard detectives, CIA officers, former KGB officers, film and TV actors, writers and producers, journalists, novelists and true crime authors, gamblers, outlaw bikers, and Cosa Nostra organized crime bosses. Take care and I appreciate your article. Crews being sent here were given a handbook containing such gems as "Do not take your guns with you, the Brits do not like guns and you will need a licence for them". Thanks for writing.Paul, Myself and a couple other members of our Holy Loch American Veterans Association living here in Scotland are working with other organisations toward establishing a permanent American Heritage Centre here in the Dunoon area. The Scottish people have to be the nicest, most humble people I have ever met. Hey anonymous, pulled in to the Hunley November of 86 on the Rickover, what was the nearest town where sailors would go for a pub, remember getting a pint 'o the heavy, had the BEST fish n chips there too! . However, Sir Paul Gore-Booth, the head of the diplomatic service, rejected the proposal, fearing that it could generate enormous controversy and potentially put the Queen Mother at risk. google_ad_channel = ''; The Sara anchored just out from Greenoch and I was able to get a couple days of liberty. Their bank stood on what is now the Co-op car park. I had me a place in Innellaen so I could get away from the ship now and then. RM E139G0 - Feb. 29, 2012 - POLARIS SUBMARINE ARRIVES IN HOLY LOCH The 6700-ton American Polaris submarine ''PATRICK HENRY'' arrived in the RM BE3YDY - Looking north up towards Holy Loch from Kirn, Argyl and Bute, Scotland. From 1961-1992, it was used as a US Polaris . The area offered deep, sheltered access, and had already seen service during World War II, as a Royal Navy submarine base. Our US presence here lasted over 31 years and we felt that there needs to be a place for folk to be able to visit. We lived in Dunoon and I started school there. No, I don't remember the name of the base hospital. The World Health Organisation (WHO) traces the beginnings of quarantine to the 14th century: "A period of 40 days or 'quarantenaria' became established later as the usual period of isolation for sea-borne travellers and goods suspected of harbouring infectious diseases. Dot. To make maximum usage of its submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) deterrent force, American military had determined that it required an overseas base for refit and crew turnover. Dot,I'm sorry to say that the Holy Loch submarine base, stationed in the middle of the loch, is gone. American children received their education in primary schools in Dunoon, Kirn, Sandbank and St Munns, then in Dunoon Grammar School when they were older. And you can contact Paul Davis at pauldavisoncrime@aol.com. Saw a newspaper in August '66 that had a headline: "70 AGAIN TOMORROW, NO RELIEF IN SIGHT", Tom, Yes, I agree with you about the pubs and fish & chips. Kilmun Parish Church and Argyll Mausoleum is said to stand where Saint Munn's church was once located. I took Highland dance lessons. It is pledged to foster true American patriotism, provide social and fraternal activities for all members, encourage allegiance to the United States and to its flag, and to perpetuate the traditions and history of the Americal Division of the United . I then rented a flat in Glasgow, where I too took the ferry from Gourock to Dunoon and the navy base. The Americans brought their own services. Natick 760 is now in Boston Naval Shipyard. WINTERS BETTER THAN NEW ENGLAND. In January '63 the Proteus was relieved by the USS Hunley (AS 31). London was a favorite city of mine. I have beenn able to find their Scottish minister and miraculously have arranged for him to come to America this September for the celebration. I also enjoyed visiting the Scottish pubs. A large war memorial in the form of a round tower is sited on Lazaretto Point. Delightful country!! I hope to take my wife there one day - in the summer, of course.Paul, Hi , I have been looking for a marine froM the Simon lake , 19 66 ,67" 68, his first name was George ,and his last name was blaseg , not sure of the spelling of his last name. I was there from zJan 82 to Sept 83 on Hunley. i heard he made chief and became a tugmaster.Thanks for writing.Look forward to hearing from you. Robertson's Yard at Sandbank, a village on the loch, was a major wooden boat building company in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. His 'On Crime' column appears in the Washington Times and his 'Crime Beat' column appears here. In the early 1960s my husband was assigned to the USS Thomas Jefferson (SSBN 618). November 1975, the Canopus was relieved by the USS Holland (AS 32). And in education, a 'service pupil adviser' has started work with Argyll and Bute Council, funded by the MoD's education support fund, to provide advice for children of forces personnel in the area. It has occurred to us, therefore, that it might be possible to include a visit to the Simon Lake in the course of the Queen Mothers forthcoming visit to Faslane in May. Thanks, Charlie Witherow, OMC USN(Ret) Chairman "HLAVA", Dunoon, Scotland. Went into Glasgow. Over a 30 year span, Los Alamos completed over })(); The Holy Loch is a sea loch which lies two miles north of Dunoon on the Cowal peninsula. :), Jim,I too have fond memories of Scotland and the people. 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